stevieboy
Member
Kinda takes some of the fun out of it for sure.
rick
New Member
Right? Can only hope for the best.
Picked the bike up Saturday and rode it into work yesterday. I have spent far to much time on the Ducati during all this warranty repair. In comparison the RC feels slow, the brakes feel wooden and the suspension sucks - so, I say it's about the way it's supposed to be!
I guess the plan at this point is to keep riding it like normal and if it breaks down a 4th time then maybe I'll lawyer up. If it keeps going then hopefully I'll have the reliable bike I need and everything is fine.
Picked the bike up Saturday and rode it into work yesterday. I have spent far to much time on the Ducati during all this warranty repair. In comparison the RC feels slow, the brakes feel wooden and the suspension sucks - so, I say it's about the way it's supposed to be!
I guess the plan at this point is to keep riding it like normal and if it breaks down a 4th time then maybe I'll lawyer up. If it keeps going then hopefully I'll have the reliable bike I need and everything is fine.
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rick
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Not overly interesting but, this seems to be my documentation thread so, the last few days the bike has intermittently been throwing a "Low Oil Pressure" warning. Oil level is good, bike is at operating temperature, RPM is probably in the 6-7.5K range when this happens while putting along at highway speeds. It's been clearing before I can work my way over to the side to stop but, I called the dealer and they'd like me to drop if off tomorrow.
The dealer seemed focused on that it's been only ~1000 miles since they replaced the head.
The dealer seemed focused on that it's been only ~1000 miles since they replaced the head.
rick
New Member
Low Oil Pressure Warning Light Update: Dealer was unable to replicate so, they gave the bike back to me this weekend after paying my $90 diagnostic fee. I figured there was a chance this would happen since it was intermittent. They said the oil level was a little high and that the coolant was a little low which they adjusted. They also topped off the fuel tank.
Yesterday I rode the bike to work w/o any warning lights but, this morning, it showed one as I was getting onto the highway this morning and then again as I was getting off the highway (40 miles later). Not sure if I should call the dealer now or strap the GoPro on and get a video of it to prove it to them. Grumble.
Yesterday I rode the bike to work w/o any warning lights but, this morning, it showed one as I was getting onto the highway this morning and then again as I was getting off the highway (40 miles later). Not sure if I should call the dealer now or strap the GoPro on and get a video of it to prove it to them. Grumble.
OldVet
New Member
Yeah strap the GoPro on and document it otherwise you will probably be in the same boat as before.
The same thing happened once on my friends 390 on our last ride but hasn't reoccurred...
The same thing happened once on my friends 390 on our last ride but hasn't reoccurred...
Treachery
Moderator
+1 on the video. I had to do that on a radio issue on the car, because the dealer couldn't duplicate the fault. My video gave them the evidence they needed to get repair authorization.
rick
New Member
Good to know! It was doing it so much after work that I called the Dealer as soon as I got home. They said that my $90 diagnostic fee I paid on Saturday applies until they diagnose the issue so, at least it won't have to pay it again when I drop it off again this Saturday.
Here's the odometer readings from when the Low Oil Pressure Warning Light came on yesterday:
To work: 7900 and 7940
To home: 7942, 7953, 7958 and 7960
So, clearly hot/cold doesn't makes no difference. ...and these were just the ones I noticed. Alot of my attention is straight forward when lane sharing so, I don't get to glance at the dash much.
I almost pulled over to call for a rescue on the way home. The warnings were becoming more frequent and taking longer to go away but, it went the last 20 miles without complaining. I suppose I could risk it tomorrow with the GoPro - I really don't want to be stranded again. The last time was pretty horrible.
Here's the odometer readings from when the Low Oil Pressure Warning Light came on yesterday:
To work: 7900 and 7940
To home: 7942, 7953, 7958 and 7960
So, clearly hot/cold doesn't makes no difference. ...and these were just the ones I noticed. Alot of my attention is straight forward when lane sharing so, I don't get to glance at the dash much.
I almost pulled over to call for a rescue on the way home. The warnings were becoming more frequent and taking longer to go away but, it went the last 20 miles without complaining. I suppose I could risk it tomorrow with the GoPro - I really don't want to be stranded again. The last time was pretty horrible.
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OldVet
New Member
Take the video before Saturday...
rick
New Member
Yeah, I think that's my plan now - risk it tomorrow on the bike. Stick the gopro to the tank pointing at the dash. I'll pull some stills and load them onto my phone for Saturday. ...assuming it keeps doing it.
rick
New Member
GoPro'ed up this morning and a few miles down the highway the low oil pressure warning light came back on. It usually turns off after a couple of minutes but, this time (like last time) it did not so, I turned around and went back home and switched to my infinitely more reliable italian bike
The warning light didn't go out until I turned the bike off but, i got some video and a still with my phone once I stopped. Hopefully that's enough proof for the dealer (although at this point I'm pretty sure it'll go off for them too)
The warning light didn't go out until I turned the bike off but, i got some video and a still with my phone once I stopped. Hopefully that's enough proof for the dealer (although at this point I'm pretty sure it'll go off for them too)
OldVet
New Member
That should help... I was thinking when you went out today it wouldn't show that LOL...
rick
New Member
Right?!? It took long enough to come on that I was thinking the same thing.
I think it's transitioning from intermittent to regular though. That should help.
I think it's transitioning from intermittent to regular though. That should help.
OldVet
New Member
It will be interesting to see what they find, like I said my friends did the same thing on our last ride but only once so far.
rick
New Member
Well, Thousand Oaks Powersports was very interested in the photos and they really liked my goofy log that I've been keeping of the mileage, location, etc of when the low oil pressure light came on. They immediately started talking about a warranty replacement for the oil pressure sensor or the entire dash and generally being awesome as usual.
If this does end up being a warranty issue, it'll be interesting to see if they can beat my current warranty repair record of 41 days from break down to repaired. Although, I'm already 18 days into this problem.
If this does end up being a warranty issue, it'll be interesting to see if they can beat my current warranty repair record of 41 days from break down to repaired. Although, I'm already 18 days into this problem.
OldVet
New Member
Thousand Oaks is where I purchased my 1290 and seem like a good bunch. I wish I wasn't five hours North or I would have them work on my bikes..
Let us know how it goes from here please...
Let us know how it goes from here please...
Fasteddy
Member
I wonder what the actual oil pressure would read on a mechanical gauge starting cold and transitioning to operating temp?
I have one project I am working on now that has excess oil clearance on the connecting rod plane bearings and it has great oil pressure cold, then it just falls away as it warns up.
I have one project I am working on now that has excess oil clearance on the connecting rod plane bearings and it has great oil pressure cold, then it just falls away as it warns up.
rick
New Member
Making the adapter to measure the oil pressure looks pretty easy relative to the cost of buying it.
The dealer just called. The replaced the oil pressure sensor and the Low Oil Pressure warning light came on immediately on the test ride. They said that it was good that they actually got to see it happen though. They said that KTM is overnighting them a new oil pump cover and that they would call me tomorrow with an update.
I'm up to 118 out of 291 days (40.5%) that the RC390 has been broken down or in the shop since I bought it. I really want to like this bike but, we are seriously drifting into getting a lawyer territory since the end of warranty period is approaching and it can't seem to run for more than a few weeks between break downs.
The dealer just called. The replaced the oil pressure sensor and the Low Oil Pressure warning light came on immediately on the test ride. They said that it was good that they actually got to see it happen though. They said that KTM is overnighting them a new oil pump cover and that they would call me tomorrow with an update.
I'm up to 118 out of 291 days (40.5%) that the RC390 has been broken down or in the shop since I bought it. I really want to like this bike but, we are seriously drifting into getting a lawyer territory since the end of warranty period is approaching and it can't seem to run for more than a few weeks between break downs.
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I used an old filter door cover and tapped for 6x1. Installed the banjo bolt adapter for mech gauge. If I remember right, limit is 11 or 12 psi at temp and idle. MUST be checked with the filter in place. I had a restricted filter! Pulled filter jumped to 30 plus. It was NOT an oem filter... The engine had trans damage and lack of oil pressure from debris in the filter...
ToraTora
Member
Rick you live in the Republic of California--the land of consumer protectionism. It sounds like you qualify via the Lemon Laws to get a different bike. Call your dealer and ask them to start the process. Be nice about it, but also be firm. Say hey thanks for the attempt, but it's time to replace the bike. Don't accept anything else. Read up on the laws, and go in there knowledgeable. You have given them ample opportunity.
The only reason I would hesitate at all is if the newer models have yet to hit the show room floor. This is something that you would want to trigger when you are most likely to get a replacement of the most recent and less likely to have issue bike.
https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general/cars
http://www.dca.ca.gov/acp/pdf_files/englemn.pdf
https://www.carlemon.com/lemon/ca_law.html
The only reason I would hesitate at all is if the newer models have yet to hit the show room floor. This is something that you would want to trigger when you are most likely to get a replacement of the most recent and less likely to have issue bike.
https://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general/cars
http://www.dca.ca.gov/acp/pdf_files/englemn.pdf
https://www.carlemon.com/lemon/ca_law.html
rick
New Member
A replacement that didn't have issues would be fine. Plus, the 2016's appear to have a 2-year/24,000 mile warranty based on other posts on this forum. There's nothing else new in it's price range that interest me nearly as much ...maybe the R3 in a pinch but, didn't just get a recall for snapping triples?
The was supposed to be my primary bike but, this particular one can't seem to do the job and there's no reason to assume that's gonna change in the next few weeks. With all the metal that's been shed into that motor so far, there's no reason to pretend it's gonna have anything near the expected lifespan at this point either. Sigh.
The was supposed to be my primary bike but, this particular one can't seem to do the job and there's no reason to assume that's gonna change in the next few weeks. With all the metal that's been shed into that motor so far, there's no reason to pretend it's gonna have anything near the expected lifespan at this point either. Sigh.
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